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demonicfurball
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 Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:51 am Post subject: Another querie, this time sleeping arrangements |
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First I'd like to say thank you everyone, the advice and kind word have been invaluable.
My question is about sleeping arrangements. Last night we put Velma (our crested baby) in her bed and turned the lights off to go to sleep. Next thing we hear hissing and growling and carry on. So I get up and make sure everyone is ok, which they were but was then faced with the delemma of what to do for the night. So I put Velma in the cat carrier we brought her home in (its quite large. She settled right away and we all had a peaceful night and when I took her out in the morning and we went straight outside and she pottyed straight away.
So my question is, is this ok? Should I continue to do this till thet're all ok togther? 
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ann
Painted Ponies
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| As long as she has room to lay comfortably, stand, stretch out, and not have to lay in pee or poop, if she does any overnight, i don't see a problem. Crates, properly used are a very good idea. The dog is safe, and their own little den is security for them. |
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morag
Mistress of the Cunning Plan
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Location: Shropshire UK
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| I'll second Ann's comments hun. |
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Ace
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And a third here! I have an almost 11 yr old dog who's been sleeping in her crate since she was a wee baby. Some dogs just sleep better that way. Others can graduate to outside the crate once they've matured. It all depends on the dog.
Out of my 5 dogs, only 2 don't sleep in crates. |
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hlboyz
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Location: Paradise
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That is the ultimate solution and even a better long term sleeping arrangement if it suits both of you. One of the nice things about having pups crated overnight is no worries about their safety while you sleep. With the kitty situation, now she has her very own spot to totally chill out.
Sounds like an excellent evening and morning too! |
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ColleenT
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| my dogs are crated at night and when i'm not home. that way they are safe from chewing on electric wires, safe from other chewing nightmares, and if they ever have to be left with anyone, it makes it easier on them to have their own set-up. I have crated all my dogs from puppyhood, and it works great. |
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demonicfurball
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I put her in for a little while today while she was napping but she started whining so I took her out as soon as she was quiet. Will def try again tonight.
I think this crate is fine whilest she's a puppy but she'll soon out grow it. I'll start looking for a bigger one over the next fortnight. I think this one's ok for now.
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demonicfurball
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Ha, got sucked in last night.  She whined in the crate so when she stopped I let her out and we all slept in the bed, me, hubby, the cats and Velma without incident.
Thing is, I woke up to a few puddles today and am wondering if that was the stress of the crate. She was doing great till that. Though it might also have been that she was scared of the shower today (her inside potty is in the bathroom. I hope she goes back to her good habits, she was doing so well. Going on the inside potty, and outside only. |
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ann
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Location: berkshire, england
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| If you start off letting her sleep in your bed, that's where she'll expect to sleep. If you are both happy with that, ok, if not, she has to learn to sleep in her own bed despite crying. She is a baby and everything is new, and a scary change for her. You will need patience and calm handling, to help her settle happily and become a confidant little girl. It all takes time, but you can't rush it. Be consistant and praise her when she potties in the right place, and remember, she does'nt know where that is untill you teach her. |
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hlboyz
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Oh dear! You cannot expect her to be potty trained in just a few days! Just remember it takes time and patience and persistence and it is up to YOU. Cresties are notorious for being difficult to get 100 percent potty trained and I hope you do realize that this breed can be a challenge in this regard. That being said, it is the same scene for any puppy or new adult dog for that matter. So stick to a routine and try and keep your sanity 
As an aside, my personal opinion (and from experience - ahem) is that for SOME dogs, letting them sleep with you from the get-go tells them that basically they don't have to respect you or your rules when it comes to the "den" that you call home. Remember in her previous home her pup and human mom set boundaries. Because that priviledge is something that they need to earn. Since there have been puddles today be sure she doesn't sleep with you tonight, ie she hasn't earned it yet. We get so many people who come to the forum with potty issues and peeing in the bedroom, etc. and they almost always are sleeping with the owners. You can just avoid this possibility by making sure she sleeps on the floor in a crate even if it is beside the bed until you think she is ready to be a bed warmer. It's something to think about if you continue to have issues.
I think she is doing fabulously so far! |
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demonicfurball
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| She is doing very well. I do believe I worked out the problem, we had a visitor that night. She has not peed in the bedroom, it was in the lounge. I do try to get her to sleep on her bed or in a crate but she whines so I thought I'd work up to it with some crate training during the day, 10-20 mins at a time and treats for going in there on her own. I think maybe I need to harden up on the bed issue |
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Yu-jiemomma
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my Puff boy Rocky cried and howled in his crate for 9 nights 
I was so sleep deprived...I think I posted during my stress but I stuck it out where I would leave him in the crate but I would get up at like 4 in the morning and just take him out on his potty break (as a puppy I would wake up twice during the night and give a potty break ) and instead of returning to bed I laid down on the couch and we slept until 6 a.m.
that way I got at least SOME sleep
anyhoo on night 10 my boy just whined for 20 mins and fell asleep
oh wait, I did introduce a late night short stroll and fetch game which helped A LOT !
a tired pup can't cry for too long(hopefully)
now...9 months later ....Rocky loves his crate absolutely loves it ...he goes in there in the day to nap if he wants to and he hides his favourite toys in there he really loves his crate (he shares with his brother Julius one HUGE crate [big dog size} |
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ColleenT
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| Same with us, Pixie screamed for 9 nights. We would take her out when we thought she needed to go potty, but other than that, she was placed back into her crate, and she learned. my dogs are crated when i'm not home and at night. it helps so much. i know they are safe and they don't mind it at all. they also eat in their crates. I think you have to be consistent with training, or you can end up with a dog that is out of control. |
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cadillackesha
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| All of my dogs are crated at night. I am a very light sleeper and do not sleep well with them in the bed. Also I normally have 5 - 10 dogs here. Everyone sleeps in a crate. New fosters will sometimes cry for a while but they generally settle down quickly when they see the others curling up sleeping peacefully. I am with them all day long so by bedtime I need some alone time. They don't resent it at all. They all go into their crates when I say "go to bed". Everyone gets a treat & a "good baby". |
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demonicfurball
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You all must have very understanding neighbours. I am in a flat and dont think its appropriate to let her cry/howl all night with how close we are.  |
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demonicfurball
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| However, I have been putting her in while I shower during the day when the neighbours arnt around, at least I dont think they are and she only whines not howls so I might try again tonight. |
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ColleenT
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| we own a house, so the neighbors don't hear. I guess that would be a problem if we had neighbors against the other side. Maybe you can talk to the neighbors if they are nice people, and ask them if they'd be willing to let you try it for a night or two. |
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hlboyz
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You all must have very understanding neighbours. I am in a flat and dont think its appropriate to let her cry/howl all night with how close we are.
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It happens alot. Most people understand who have pups (well, if they remember those training days). Just gotta get past the first few weeks, let puppy know that you will not be responding to whining. Some it takes longer. My neighbors met Albi right away, but I made sure to let them know he wasn't being tortured or anything Am glad at least your pup is not a howler!
I know what you mean though, I met a lady who wanted a dog like my boy since he isn't a yapper and their condo was going to make an exception for her, and all I am thinking is this condo isn't dog friendly and how is this person going to get through the adjustment period??? I told her he doesn't yap NOW and that not all of this breed were so quiet.... Hopefully she adopted a quiet adult lap dog...
No worries though, you will get through it just fine. I agree with discussing it (and being apologetic) with your neighbors casually if you think they are being affected by the noise, it shows true consideration of their comfort, as am sure they already know you have a puppy!
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