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Mari Becker
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Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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Location: Minnetonka, MN
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So I went back and looked and we switched from Acana Grasslands to Core Reduced Calorie the first of January, after I read a thread on here about reduced fat/higher fiber helping with anal gland issues. Maybe that is what set off this bile vomiting??? The Core is mostly Chicken and Turkey with Salmon being further down the list. Acana is lamb, walleye, duck and egg as the protein sources. I know chicken is a commmon hot item for allergies and maybe that did it?
I'm thinking maybe all he really needs is the Pepcid, a third meal at bedtime and maybe to go back to the Acana? I'm gonna get blood work done this week and take it from there. |
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puffornot
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Joined: 25 Aug 2007
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Location: oregon sweet oregon
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| What is the protein % in each of the two foods? He is young and probably has a high metabolism, so the reduced calorie may not be meeting his caloric etc needs. |
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hlboyz
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Location: Paradise
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Most of the senior type foods are reduced protein/fat and higher fiber but it is the higher fiber you need for the anal gland issue. You can feed any food and just add psyllium to it and get more fiber in the diet. If you want to go back to the Acana.
As for a sensitivity, am glad you noted the different proteins. I have one pup quite sensitive to turkey and another to lamb, no one is allergic to chicken. (knock on wood) So be sure to note this somewhere the food ingredients (save the labels). Might come in handy some day. Both of these pups were eating a food with these proteins in it, I think it just was when they got too much of it as I switched up foods, that it triggered skin reactions.
I didn't know about the turkey (which noted above was one of many ingredients in his food) and this pup (Elmo) started vomitting daily until I switched to a single protein allergy diet food. Only when the serum allergy tests were done did it reveal the turkey (4 out of 6 so pretty high). So recently I thought what the heck.... and gave him raw turkey necks with the other pups in lieu of chicken, and you should have seen the huge hive lesion that came up on his back. First reaction in years. Don't let anyone tell ya those tests are bogus!!! My point is.... it all started with vomiting his regular food (not bile) if this tale has any importance to you. Never did find out exactly what was going on, but there was a problem with other people's pups on the food at this time which I found out later. So what was the culprit.... dunno. But there still is that turkey thing to consider.
Continuing with the pepcid is a good idea, the acids can just aggravate the whole vomitting thing. |
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Mari Becker
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Location: Minnetonka, MN
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| Thank you sooo much for all the input and experiences. So much to consider and figure out. |
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ColleenT
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Location: Poconos USA
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| When my Abby was diagnosed with IBD- She was scoped to find out. The scope was expensive. But her specialist said she had a very bad case. She was put on prednisone for 6 months, a probiotic daily forever- she used the human type in the health food store- Reuteri. It is a powder and tastes good. I mixed it with her food. She also was not allowed to have the protein sources she had eaten in the past, which were mostly Chicken and beef. We switched her to A fish based diet, Eagle Pack Holistic Anchovy, Sardine and salmon and she did great for a long time on that. Good Luck, I hope they figure this out quickly for you. |
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jennie_c_d
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Location: Brunswick, Ga
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I have an 8 year old IG with seemingly random stomach issues. She pukes when she eats anything different, or when there's no food in her stomach. She also gets bloody diarrhea, but that's beside the point.
I recently switched from feeding meals, to free feeding. Jewel was needing 6+ tiny meals a day, to keep her from getting nauseated and going off her food. I just... couldn't keep up with feeding that way, so I decided to leave the food bowl down. She has flourished. There was an adjustment period, with loose stools and overeating, for both dogs, but since then, they've both been totally ok with it.
It is a thought, and slightly random, but some dogs with touchy tummies just can't handle the amount of food in a meal. |
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Essex Girl
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Joined: 05 Jun 2009
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Location: London, England
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Those are very interesting observations, Jennie. My Crestie is one of the small fine boned ones, and I have often looked at him & thought how tiny his stomach must actually be! So I agree that small & often is probably the best way forward.
I also think that many of us may be too quick to hand out 'treats' in between meals; it could put the stomach in a state of permanent overdrive, producing gastric juices continuously, and when there is nothing in there to digest - then the dog brings up bile. Just a thought. |
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