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Kris L. Christine
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 Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: Dr. W. Jean Dodds Latest Vaccination Schedule |
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Here is Dr. W. Jean Dodds' Latest Recommendation Vaccination Schedule for those of you who are interested.
http://www.weim.net/emberweims/Vaccine.html
Dr. Jean Dodds' Recommended Vaccination Schedule
Distemper (MLV)
Initial (e.g. Intervet Progard Puppy) 9 weeks, 12 weeks, 16 - 20 weeks
1st Annual Booster At 1 year MLV Distemper/ Parvovirus only
Re-Administration Interval None needed.
Duration of immunity 7.5 / 15 years by studies. Probably lifetime. Longer studies pending.
Comments Can have numerous side effects if given too young (< 8 weeks).
Parvovirus (MLV)
Initial (e.g. Intervet Progard Puppy) 9 weeks, 12 weeks, 16 - 20 weeks
1st Annual BoosterAt 1 year MLV Distemper/ Parvovirus only
Re-Administration Interval None needed.
Duration of immunity 7.5 years by studies. Probably lifetime. Longer studies pending.
Comments At 6 weeks of age, only 30% of puppies are protected but 100% are exposed to the virus at the vet clinic.
Rabies (killed)
Initial 24 weeks or older
1st Annual BoosterAt 1 year (give 3-4 weeks apart from Dist/Parvo booster) Killed 3 year rabies vaccine
Re-Administration Interval 3 yr. vaccine given as required by law in California (follow your state/provincial requirements)
Comments rabid animals may infect dogs.
Vaccines Not Recommended For Dogs
Distemper & Parvo @ 6 weeks or younger
Not recommended.
At this age, maternal antibodies form the mothers milk (colostrum) will neutralize the vaccine and only 30% for puppies will be protected. 100% will be exposed to the virus at the vet clinic.
Corona
Not recommended.
1.) Disease only affects dogs <6 weeks of age.
2.) Rare disease: TAMU has seen only one case in seven years.
3.) Mild self-limiting disease.
4.) Efficacy of the vaccine is questionable.
Leptospirosis
Not recommended
1) There are an average of 12 cases reported annually in California.
2) Side effects common.
3) Most commonly used vaccine contains the wrong serovars. (There is no cross-protection of serovars) There is a new vaccine with 2 new serovars. Two vaccinations twice per year would be required for protection.).
4) Risk outweighs benefits.
Lyme
Not recommended
1) Low risk in California.
2) 85% of cases are in 9 New England states and Wisconsin.
3) Possible side effect of polyarthritis from whole cell bacterin.
Boretella
(Intranasal)
(killed) Only recommended 3 days prior to boarding when required.
Protects against 2 of the possible 8 causes of kennel cough.
Duration of immunity 6 months.
Giardia
Not recommended
Efficacy of vaccine unsubstantiated by independent studies
There are two types of vaccines currently available to veterinarians: modified-live vaccines and inactivated ("killed") vaccines.
Immunization Schedules
There is a great deal of controversy and confusion surrounding the appropriate immunization schedule, especially with the availability of modified-live vaccines and breeders who have experienced postvaccinal problems when using some of these vaccines. It is also important to not begin a vaccination program while maternal antibodies are still active and present in the puppy from the mother's colostrum. The maternal antibodies identify the vaccines as infectious organisms and destroy them before they can stimulate an immune response.
Many breeders and owners have sought a safer immunization program.
Modified Live Vaccines (MLV)
Modified-live vaccines contain a weakened strain of the disease causing agent. Weakening of the agent is typically accomplished by chemical means or by genetic engineering. These vaccines replicate within the host, thus increasing the amount of material available for provoking an immune response without inducing clinical illness. This provocation primes the immune system to mount a vigorous response if the disease causing agent is ever introduced to the animal. Further, the immunity provided by a modified-live vaccine develops rather swiftly and since they mimic infection with the actual disease agent, it provides the best immune response.
Inactivated Vaccines (Killed)
Inactivated vaccines contain killed disease causing agents. Since the agent is killed, it is much more stable and has a longer shelf life, there is no possibility that they will revert to a virulent form, and they never spread from the vaccinated host to other animals. They are also safe for use in pregnant animals (a developing fetus may be susceptible to damage by some of the disease agents, even though attenuated, present in modified-live vaccines). Although more than a single dose of vaccine is always required and the duration of immunity is generally shorter, inactivated vaccines are regaining importance in this age of retrovirus and herpesvirus infections and concern about the safety of genetically modified microorganisms. Inactivated vaccines available for use in dogs include rabies, canine parvovirus, canine coronavirus, etc.
W. Jean Dodds, DVM
HEMOPET
938 Stanford Street
Santa Monica, CA 90403
310/ 828-4804
fax: 310/ 828-8251
Note: This schedule is the one I recommend and should not be interpreted to mean that other protocols recommended by a veterinarian would be less satisfactory. It's a matter of professional judgment and choice. For breeds or families of dogs susceptible to or affected with immune dysfunction, immune-mediated disease, immune-reactions associated with vaccinations, or autoimmune endocrine disease (e.g., thyroiditis, Addison's or Cushing's disease, diabetes, etc.) the above protocol is recommended.
After 1 year, annually measure serum antibody titers against specific canine infectious agents such as distemper and parvovirus. This is especially recommended for animals previously experiencing adverse vaccine reactions or breeds at higher risk for such reactions (e.g., Weimaraner, Akita, American Eskimo, Great Dane).
Another alternative to booster vaccinations is homeopathic nosodes. This option is considered an unconventional treatment that has not been scientifically proven to be efficacious. One controlled parvovirus nosode study did not adequately protect puppies under challenged conditions. However, data from Europe and clinical experience in North America support its use. If veterinarians choose to use homeopathic nosodes, their clients should be provided with an appropriate disclaimer and written informed consent should be obtained.
I use only killed 3 year rabies vaccine for adults and give it separated from other vaccines by 3-4 weeks. In some states, they may be able to give titer test result in lieu of booster.
I do NOT use Bordetella, corona virus, leptospirosis or Lyme vaccines unless these diseases are endemic in the local area pr specific kennel. Furthermore, the currently licensed leptospira bacterins do not contain the serovars causing the majority of clinical leptospirosis today.
I do NOT recommend vaccinating bitches during estrus, pregnancy or lactation.
W. Jean Dodds, DVM
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cesarmonkey
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| Thank you, Kris, for posting this helpful information. I'm going to make it a sticky for easy reference. |
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DE
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| EXCELLENT and we thank you for sharing this with our forum. |
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Kris L. Christine
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| You're very welcome! Please share with all the dog owners you know. |
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Chelsey
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you for posting this. It is amazing to me how OVERvacinated our animals are becoming and its not safe! |
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ColleenT
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i live in NorthEast Pa and we have dogs getting LYME disease a LOT. My Friend that i ride with - her dog came up very ill and it's b/c of Lyme and she did NOT vaccinate. i do every time, b/c it's a danger here. My dogs have never had issue with a lyme vaccine. we have too many deer ticks to take a chance.
Also my Doggy day care and other events require many of these vaccinations. Like Bordatella.
Do show dogs have to get these vaccinations? |
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sue
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| very helpful post--thanks! |
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Kris L. Christine
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| ColleenT wrote: |
i live in NorthEast Pa and we have dogs getting LYME disease a LOT. My Friend that i ride with - her dog came up very ill and it's b/c of Lyme and she did NOT vaccinate. i do every time, b/c it's a danger here. My dogs have never had issue with a lyme vaccine. we have too many deer ticks to take a chance.
Also my Doggy day care and other events require many of these vaccinations. Like Bordatella.
Do show dogs have to get these vaccinations? |
ColleenT,
The kennels I've boarded my dogs in have accepted titers in lieu of vaccination, and they were very grateful for all the canine vaccine data I gave them in advance of boarding my guys. Friends who use dog daycares have asked me to contact their daycares so they would accept titers instead as well, and both of them changed their policies.
I live in Maine, a Lyme endemic area, and have had the disease twice myself. None of my dogs (all unvaccinated against Lyme) have ever had the disease or tested positive for it despite having hundreds of deer tick bites every year.
A while ago, I posted a thread on this subject, which is at http://www.chinesecrestedcrush.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12541&highlight= if you are interested in reading why I choose not to give my guys the Lyme vaccine despite living in a Lyme endemic location.
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ColleenT
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| thank you. i realize everyone should be informed. in my case, i do choose to get the lyme vaccine. |
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Kris L. Christine
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| ColleenT wrote: |
| thank you. i realize everyone should be informed. in my case, i do choose to get the lyme vaccine. |
ColleenT,
What counts is that you are making an informed choice.
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Addy's Mom
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Personally, I have to agree with Colleen. In this area, the number of dogs with responsible owners who have Lyme is kind of disturbing, and Addy gets the Lyme vaccine.
But I also agree with Kris about being sure you're making an informed choice. Whenever the subject comes up, I tell people to ask their vets how common Lyme really is in their area, because if the risk of Lyme is low, then this is a vaccine you'd want to avoid. Don't just blindly accept it because they're in the habit of giving it.
Between the people who sincerely believe Vaccines Evil!, and the people who think the more vaccines, the better, I sometimes find myself looking for a brick wall to bang my head against.
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ColleenT
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:15 am Post subject: |
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I do not want to condemn anyone who does not vaccinate.
for me, i try to weigh the good against the bad. Such as heartworm prevention- for me- No Question. i have seen too many dogs on animal planet have to be put to sleep b/c of heartworm. YES we have a ton of mosquitos here.
I think everyone should know what they are putting into their pets, but sometimes the vaccine is better than the risk of not vaccinating. . |
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Addy's Mom
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely, the "make an informed choice" applies to all vaccines and medications.
Lis |
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jennie_c_d
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In answer to the show dogs question, no, they don't have to have any vaccines. It isn't checked, at least in my area. Emma hasn't had anything but a 3 year rabies, since she was a puppy. She has very serious vaccine reactions, but I keep her legal, anyways. She has almost 4 rally titles, and a bite record, and nobody's ever checked her shot records.
Ena had a modified live parvo/distemper at a year, and she's almost due for her rabies shot. She'll be on 3 year rabies only, also, as long as she titers well against the other stuff. I don't have her shot records from when she was a baby (the breeder supposedly vaccinated her), and nobody's checked that, either. |
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romeo_love
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| I noticed this reccomendation was that the first rabies vaccination be given at 6 months of age, does this seem to be what most of you have followed? Romeo is just between his 12 week shots and his 16 week shots, but his vet said he would be getting his rabies shot at 16 weeks... I thought then that sounded very young so I planned to research it a bit before I took him back in. They are a very reputable vet's office, but then again when I took Romeo in he said it was the first Chinese Crested he had actually seen. I wasn't really suprised since we live in a small town, but still I want to make sure he knows what he is doing and allow him to have such a strong vaccine so early on if he doesn't need it yet. |
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Laura
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UC Davis Vet Med recommends the rabies vaccination be given at 16 weeks: https://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/vmthold/info/vaccinproto.htm .
Another document I found from them says 4-6 months, so I would guess you are okay to give it at 16 weeks. |
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romeo_love
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Thanks Laura! and thanks for the link I really appreciate it  |
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