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escada
Top Dog!!!!
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Posts: 3002
Location: northern Ohio
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 Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: Puppy Development Log |
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This is a copy of my litter development notebook I keep for each litter.
I use a lot of short hand so if something isn't clear please ask
DAY #1: all puppies suff nursing/hydrated
mom on thin side but eating/drinking well-given STAT 4x day
DAY#2: all puppies suff nursing/hydrated
mom better weight eating/drinking well-given STAT 4x day
pink hl male has 3 spots
DAY#3: Begin Puppy stimulation exercises(see website www.breedingbetterdogs.com/achievers) - mom STAT 4xday
pink hl male has 7 spots
dew claw removal day- rescue remedy pups
Simone gets her post-partum bath-all clean now
Pic of litter on day 3
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LoopyMagoo
Top Dog!!!!
Joined: 16 Dec 2006
Posts: 2014
Location: West Virginia
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I just can't get enough of this! I'm on here nearly every five seconds in anticipation for the next picture. Yeah, I should be writing, but this is so much more fun! They're so cute! |
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crestedcrazy
Ms. Barksalot
Joined: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 14823
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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So how do you remove the dewclaws, I know you said you do that yourself but is there a special tool or something, do you have to do a stitch there?
Also do the puppys have a specific nipple they prefer or is that a free for all? I thought I heard somewhere a long time ago that pups pic a teet and that's the one they stick with! |
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escada
Top Dog!!!!
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Posts: 3002
Location: northern Ohio
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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To remove declaws:
First I put the foreleg btwn my thumb and forefinger for 20 seconds-cut off blood supply to reduce bleeding.
I have bandage scissors to cut right up agaist leg and I use liquid skin to stop any bleeding. If anything they give a little yip.
Then I give them Rescue Remedy and they're back to nursing
As far as nipples the ones closet to the rear legs traditionally have the most milk supply- they seem to grab whatever they can get to that's not occupied. |
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crestedcrazy
Ms. Barksalot
Joined: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 14823
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm so I heard wrong then about the nipple thing... interesting!
I guess you must get used to doing the dewclaws, I would probably faint... lol |
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escada
Top Dog!!!!
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Posts: 3002
Location: northern Ohio
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Compared to doing a litter of Dane or Mastiff puppies- cresteds are cake- no big crunchy noise  . |
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LoopyMagoo
Top Dog!!!!
Joined: 16 Dec 2006
Posts: 2014
Location: West Virginia
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Compared to doing a litter of Dane or Mastiff puppies- cresteds are cake- no big crunchy noise . |
ew, crunchy noises ... that part made me cringe. I really admire all you who do this, I really don't think I would have the stomach or the patience.  |
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Stollsilver
Slave to the Nakeds
Joined: 19 May 2006
Posts: 8977
Location: MA
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Why are the dew claws removed? Do some breeders leave them on? And the comment about the crunch gave me shivers...ewww.
It's amazing watching the spots appear. |
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My Lil Pony Boy
Top Dog!!!!
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Posts: 2398
Location: FL
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya, the crunch is still ringing in my ears. . . ewwww |
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Kailee
Show dog
Joined: 28 May 2006
Posts: 812
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| I'd have to agree with Kristin on this one guys...It's really not all that bad, esp. in the toy breeds...not that i've done the procedure but I've been present both for dewclaws and/or tail docks when i volunteered at my vet's office when i was younger. The pups barely noticed and there was little blood involved in any event. |
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ladydaisy
Top Dog!!!!
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 2438
Location: Sunny Florida
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| I am totally in love with the pup with the little pink tush. This has been so awesome to read about the new babies and the whole process. I just know that I could never do any part of that. I nearly cry when I accidentally pull hair while brushing Daisy...cant imagine cutting dewclaws. But I have total respect for those of you that can. You are doing an amazing job with those babies Kristen. Congrats again!!! |
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Ups N Downs
Admin
Joined: 19 Dec 2005
Posts: 12188
Location: Whoville
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Oh how I love that black pup with the little white spot on the head.  I can't wait to see them all grow up, though.
My rescue boy had his dew claws removed which makes me wonder about his beginnings... I would always prefer to have dew claws removed, personally, as it prevents future accidents. |
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escada
Top Dog!!!!
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Posts: 3002
Location: northern Ohio
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| For showing cresteds removal of dewclaws is a matter of personal preference not a requirement. Some say it makes the front leg look cleaner, others are concerned with injury, for others its one less nail to trim. |
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mybutterfliesbark
Show dog
Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Posts: 748
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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The dew claws are removed on Poodles due to grooming concerns. Poodles are brushed backward to encourage their hair to 'stand'. when brushing the legs backward it is easy to catch those dew claws in the brush and tear or rip the claw. This bleeds a lot. (I remember one very bad experience with this) On a Pap that 'bump' makes the leg loose its elegant clean line.
Docked tails are the same, quick and easy. But those usually require one stitch.
My 'petstore' Pap has his dew claws but the breeders Paps do not. My Danes have all had their dew claws but I have never had one of my Danes ears cropped. This is usually done a bit later after the pup leaves the pack so I can make this choice.
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sue
Show dog
Joined: 04 Mar 2007
Posts: 904
Location: dunmore pa
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| what is the age up to that you can have dew claws removed? do they ever remove them when the pup is older? |
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escada
Top Dog!!!!
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Posts: 3002
Location: northern Ohio
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| I've never done pups beyond 3 days. I've seen adults have rear dew claws removed-but by then its surgery with anesethsia and post-op sutures. |
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igpodet
Top Dog!!!!
Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 2623
Location: DEVON. UK
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Over here dew claws have to be removed by day five, otherwise it is a full op when the dog is older.
I have always removed all dew claws from my pups,(all breeds) not just because it makes the leg look better - nice clean lines - but mainly for health reasons;
I have had a dog , a lurcher, who regularly ripped his front claws, causing a lot of pain and very difficult to heal. He had them removed when he was about 14months and was the only dog I had who got excited when the 'bandage box' came out  .. it either ment he was going to work in the evening, or we were going to a show that had racing after the show classes!! His life would of been much better if the claws had been removed when he was a baby.He was also faster without them ... no pain!
I have groomed a lot of otherwise well cared for dogs of many and varied breeds , where the dew claws have grown long and gone into the foot opr stop pad.. the owners where mortified when I read them the riot act 
So I can see no point in leaving them on .. none have ever had any difficulty 'holding' things with their fingers , which is often said to be the reason to leave them on!!? |
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ann
Painted Ponies
Joined: 26 Mar 2006
Posts: 7286
Location: berkshire, england
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I have always removed dew claws, usually day 3. They are a real danger to most breeds. I have seen so many ripped legs as a result of them being left on.  |
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mybutterfliesbark
Show dog
Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Posts: 748
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One of my GSD's had an emergency dew claw removal due to a tear. At that time the vet removed both since the dog had a propensity to injury. It was tramatic for her and not something I would normally do so late. My Mother's Poodles were done at 3 days also although I could never watch.
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sue
Show dog
Joined: 04 Mar 2007
Posts: 904
Location: dunmore pa
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: |
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| i would'nt have it done now (lily is 7 mos.old) but i wish she had had it done when she was a pup. i am very careful getting her clothes on and off. |
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