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huahualover1
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 Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: question...help! |
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Okay, not too happy!!!
I've had my girl for about 3 weeks, she was coming out of heat when I got her and I know there is NO POSSIBILITY of her gretting pregnant at my house. Well her nipples are not only swollen, but starting to puff out. Can anyone tell me what signs to look for in the cresties? I have whelped several foster litters in the past, large and small breed. But no crested littes before. I'm so upset. I specifically asked if she had been around any males and the answer was no. I would not have breed this dog purposely, although she is a good quality hairless. Any advice, what to look for etc.. thanks...  |
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hlboyz
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I have had all my spayed before three weeks - yes, even those who were in heat when they were on the street before impounded. I think you should ask your vet about it. It doesn't matter if she is a nice hairless (per your opinion which you say is newbie-ish) if she is impregnated by a rottie/chow/pitt/doxie mix!!!
She may just be having signs of her heat/hormones, but whatever - your vet should recommend an action. Unless you want puppies. |
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huahualover1
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I certainly do not want puppies. Like I said. I have fostered pregant dogs in the past through rescue and have about 10 whelpings under my belt. But they always come to me (usually) very pregnant, I haven't seen the signs of "just pregnant" before. That's what I was wondering if this could just be from being in heat, or if it's a sign of being pregnant.
PS. cannot and will not abort a litter of puppies if that is the case. Whether you agree or not, abortion is against my beliefs. |
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hlboyz
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All I am saying is that you SHOULD have made or should MAKE the spay appointment NOW if she was coming out of heat three weeks ago. Why else would you wait? You aren't performing an abortion, you are performing a spay - that you were assured of when you got her that she wasn't pregnant. 10 whelpings? Which rescue do you foster for?
Once again, most of us ARE NOT BREEDERS, and not breeding PETS or RESCUES - so ask your vet! |
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huahualover1
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| I used to foster for a puppymill rescue group. I've taken in lot's of dogs, mostly Chihuahuas, over the years. That also didn't stop the local humanes society's from calling too. Once they find out there is someone in the area that will foster dogs that are pregnant, the phone never stops ringing, lol.. |
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hlboyz
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If you plan on coming to the forum with pregnant cresties or puppies you need to contact the forum administators and give them all the references (SPECIFICALLY which PM rescue and which HS) in order to post about them. As a reputable rescuer or reputable breeder. I believe that is the policy.
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huahualover1
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| Oh. And I was trying to wait to spay her (before her next heat) because of having financial hardships. Litterally a few days after I got this bundle of love, we had a horrible storm. My county was declared a disater area. I have alot of damage to my property, and fixing the roof/taking down trees had to come before getting her spayed. |
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huahualover1
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| So if I have a question about the possibility of mine being pregnant I have to get approval to ask? I'm so confused...didn't think this was "that" kind of forum. |
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hlboyz
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If you are in a low income group or financial hardship area, you should qualify for a speuter program which costs less that fifty bucks. Hmmmm, if you don't have that - how are you going to pay for the vet bills for the poor girl and possibly pups? I guess that answers my question about taking her to the vet....
No, you can ask all you want. I am the only person replying to your posts. Give it time!
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Indiana's mom
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Cresteds will often have false pregnancies big bellies swollen sensative nipples. Some will even build nests and bring their baby dolls in there with them.
The only way to know for sure is if you have had her throughout her heat cycle to know for sure otherwise an x-ray is the way to go. Cresteds seem to be eager little producers so I would get her to see a vet as soon as possible and get her spayed ASAP so no accidents can occur. |
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huahualover1
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| Yeah. I kind of guessed from your postings that you were "that" kind of person. We have a saying in rescue. It is those that don't have do, and those that do don't. What that basically means is people sometimes have really big hearts and open up their homes even when it comes at a cost. Sometimes that cost is not getting a new pair of shoes in a year sometimes it is driving 8 hours one way for one dog, but it is worth it to me. I feed my guys 5 star food and know they are safe, loved and well taken care of. I am not a low income household. I am actually at a much higher income than most places would allow for any type of benefits. We happened to have a few thousand dollars worth of damage to my home (yes, I own a home) and my property (which is large). This means I must put aside the desire to have my girl freshly spade to fix my roof and property before winter comes. All my dogs were foster dogs with issues that could not, or were not adopted. Most have medical conditions that I pay much more than anyone I know. But yes, since I decided to fix a hole in my roof before getting her spade you deemed me a bad "low Income" dog owner. I was really excited to learn all about this breed, I think that people like you ruin it for others. I am not dog ignorant, I am just new to this breed. Thank much, I will probally be unsubscribing now. |
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hlboyz
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| sorry, i guess we are all posting at the same time.... but really, if you don't know the possible sire - ie what dogs did the former owner have, HOW COULD YOU??? Do you know what it would do to a crestie to birth mastiff pups? That just arrrrrrrrrgh. |
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huahualover1
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: Thanks |
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| Thanks much Indiana's mom for some positive information. I appreciate it. |
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OutiDivin
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How many dogs do you have?
My crestie girl has a false pregnancy every heat, it is very common in this breed. How pregnant would your girl be if she was preg? I'd think you'd see her belly getting bigger soon.
Did you get her from rescue or humane society - they usually come spayed?
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huahualover1
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| She "would" be around 3-4 weeks. I have loved this breed for so long, but we all know they don't come around in rescue too often. I have waited for the right one to come along for 7 years and it never happened. I got her from a breeder. I have 4 dogs, all Mill survivors, all elderly. I really wanted a younger girl for awhile because I know mine will all go relatively soon at the same time because they are so close in age. |
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DE
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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The best answer is to take your little girl to the vet for verification or contact the breeder that you got this dog from.
The forum has a very strict policy in regard to any mention of breeding, puppies, litters etc. These policies are put up in various places all over the forum as well as the welcome letter when a person signs up. Rescues must be approved by the Admins to post on litters/puppies as well.
Should your dog be pregnant, there can be no posting of the litter or puppies in any way.
This forum supports reputable breeders, spay/neuter and reputable rescues so I am sure you can understand our policies having done rescue work yourself. |
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Indiana's mom
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Just curious but why would a reputbale breeder have given up this girl if she is so nice? Why did she come to you intact? I would really question the breeder on those two things. Is it in your contract that she be spayed by a certain time? If not and she is nto a show girl then I would be very weary of the person you got her from and not trust them to tell you the truth about a possible pregnancy. JMHO
Edit: The rescues are overflowing with Cresteds this year. |
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huahualover1
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I'm not trusting what she told me now. She seemed like a decent breeder however I wasn't looking for a "show quality" dog. I was looking for a pet quality. I have shown one of my chi's before, she has sinced passed away at the ripe old age of 17.
I do have a contract, it actually say's nothing about me being required to spay her (to my suprise), but that was never really an issue in my house as everyone is spayed/neutered already. |
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Indiana's mom
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Honestly your baby had to have come from a BYB if there is no spay clause in her contract at all. Just because you are not interested in showing does not mean you should not look for a breeder who shows and health tests. Where any health tests performed on your little girls parents before they were bred? Does this breeder also have other breeds that they sell as well?
You can PM me with any more in depth information about the breeder, names of parents etc. Can't discuss those kinds of things out in the open. |
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puffornot
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| I also don't understand that you can purchase/acquire a dog, knowing you will spay her but only have enough money to deal with damages to your property instead. You may have a good paying job and a large property but it sounds like you do not have enough savings set aside to care for these life issues and what was that 4 dogs? Hlboyz has rescued dogs in horrible condition from near death, she is trying to point out that you are risking this dog's life IF she is pregnant from a large breed. It is also very appropriate when you get a new dog to immediately take it to the vet for a check up, and to quarantine it from your existing dogs. We are happy to help you learn and provide positive support to you, but we also don't know you from Adam - you don't even give a state or country of where you are "top of the world", and at least some of us are more interested in the dog's welfare than your feelings. You have had 7 years to save up for the care of this dog you have wanted. I truly hope the dog is not pregnant. |
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